How Should Christians Feel About Same Sex Marriage?

Video raw link: https://vimeo.com/132444782

Rod MacIlvaine as part of ‘Ten Questions’ Series
Grace Community Church in Bartlesville Oklahoma

How Should Christians Feel About Same-Sex Marriage?
June 28, 2015

UPDATE: The Obama administration has set up rainbow-colored lights to illuminate the real-life White House. (Twitter @whitehouse)Whitehouse celebrates SCOTUS ruling

 

Franklin Graham’s response on white house rainbow colors

The President had the White House lit up in rainbow colors to celebrate the Supreme Court ruling on same-sex marriage. This is outrageous—a real slap in the face to the millions of Americans who do not support same-sex marriage and whose voice is being ignored. God is the one who gave the rainbow, and it was associated with His judgment. God sent a flood to wipe out the entire world because mankind had become so wicked and violent. One man, Noah, was found righteous and escaped God’s judgment with his family. The rainbow was a sign to Noah that God would not use the flood again to judge the world. But one day God is going to judge sin—all sin. Only those who are found righteous will be able to escape His judgment. That righteousness comes through faith, believing on the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ who took our sins and shed His blood on the cross for each and every one. So, when we see the gay pride rainbow splashed on business advertisements and many people’s Facebook pages, may it remind all of us of God’s judgment to come. Are you ready? Are your sins forgiven?

Source Post on Finding Gems & Sharing Them

Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

He whom the son of Man sets free is free indeed.

Freedom from sin and death — that is real Liberty.

Sandra Crosnoe said: “The state cannot make something right or wrong — that is a function of the Creator. The state can however make your life miserable for not doing what it wants you to do in certain blocks of time. That is the function of power. How long does the state’s power last? Well now we are back to the Creator’s determination. When He says ‘game over’ that will be the end of that. Who is really in control? That would be the Creator. Seek Him while you may…”

 

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They Know Where You Live and What You’ve Been Doing

I want your money jewelry car boat and house (a fictional? scenario)


Federal Agent (Knock Knock)

Citizen – Hello

Federal Agent – Hello I am Joe, and I am with the Bureau Of Past Crimes. May I come in?

Citizen – Sure … I guess … What’s wrong?

Federal Agent – The State Department’s PR division asked us to look into your past. They said you have been giving the US government a hard time in your blogs and sullying its reputation.

Citizen – I thought I had a Constitutional right of free speech? And don’t you need a warrant?

Federal Agent – You certainly do, but know the government has a right to look into your past and charge you with the crimes you have committed. As far as the warrant is concerned, Fred write up a warrant.

Agent Fred – Just printed it up.

Citizen – Do I need a lawyer?

Federal Agent – If you are allowed one, the government will provide it. Fred where is my laptop?

Agent Fred – Right here sir.

Federal Agent – It says right here that you have downloaded over 500 songs from the Internet, what do you have to say for yourself?

Citizen – I never downloaded any songs.

Federal Agent – Did you listen to any songs you didn’t pay for?

Citizen – YouTube, but that- —

Federal Agent – They were downloaded into your temporary file space. Did you know that you could be fined up to $150,000 for each song?

Citizen – (About to faint) How did you know?

Federal Agent – It’s all in the NSA database, they are very thorough.

Citizen – I thought Congress outlawed the collection of personal data?

Federal Agent – That was overturned by the FISA Court. Now let’s get to the matter at hand. I understand you have a problem staying under the speed limit?

Citizen – What makes you say that?

Federal Agent – Do you take your cell phone with you when you travel in the car?

Citizen – Of course.

Federal Agent – Well because it has GPS tracking we record your routes and speeds. Our records show you have accumulated $25,380 in speeding fines just in the last year. If we go back further we can probably find some more revenues.

Citizen – What makes you think I was driving and even had the cell with me?

Federal Agent – Your voice was recorded at the same time. A persons voice is very distinctive you know. It looks like you have cheated on your taxes and owe another $2100.
 
Citizen – I try very hard to be accurate on my taxes.

Federal Agent – Well you know the three garage sales you had last year, you never reported the income from them. We learned that from your email. I also see that you have a big stash of gold and silver. Fred 6 months ago he talked about a secret compartment under the kitchen sink to the right. Look there.

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Agent Fred – Here it is sir. Looks to be about 2 pounds of gold and maybe 5 pounds of silver.

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Citizen – That’s mine, you have no right.

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Federal Agent – Since you have committed fraud with your taxes, property confiscation is certainly within our right. It is called property forfeiture. We do that all the time. Fred contact the department’s real estate agent to get the sale of this house ready. I also understand that the Bureau Of Future Crimes will be visiting you soon.

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A friend of mine said it well in an email recently:
We are in the valley of decision…
In the midst of living in the land of Sodom, I know the Lord has foreordained this moment in history. He has created a plumb line between the righteous and the wicked. And I know for certain, that God will not always strive with the wicked. He will let them flourish for a time, and then cut them down in a blink of an eye, just as He did in Noah, Moses, and Lot’s time.
Christians, we were born for such a time as this.
 “Be strong and of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.” Joshua 1:9
May the Lord find us faithful as we await His return.
 
Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life” (Jesus) Revelation. 2:10

May we be salt and light as long as we have breathe to do so:

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.

Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 5: 13-15 KJV

Full Disclosure:  This is a collaborative piece.  We, the authors, hope it bears no resemblance to the reality ahead.  However, if it does, then we suggest you be prepared and seek the Lord while you may do so.  We are sharing it here with prayers for your wisdom and protection in the days ahead.

For more information on the philosophy of liberty here is a classic video on topic:

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Mad As Hell? Make Sure They’re Not Going To Take YOU Anymore

This article  was originally published in 2009 as “Your Time is a Real Treasure or Volunteering 101”.  

When I first published this article in 2009, maybe I was a little too nice, because it is not just snakes that will manipulate and co-opt and lie.  It seems to be a rampant disease in our society.  It has come to my attention that there are some people and organizations still trying to abuse the grassroots (i.e. middle America, the silent majority, the real people).  They are doing it in some very manipulative ways and I want to be sure that you are properly informed and warned.  We need to vet the organizations that are seeking to solicit our help.

Now as you read this you are going to think you know the organizations and the people I am referring to.  And you very well may.  But I assure you the guidelines that I am going to spell out for you make sense even if you think you know the people and know them well.  Trust is an interesting commodity.  Once lost it is difficult to regain.  So proceed with caution.  You are about to have your eyes opened wide and may well learn to vet before you trust and even then proceed with caution!

So let’s lay some proper groundwork in our relationships.  Set reasonable goalposts.  Checkpoint with people about track records and compare notes.

Why?  Because you are salt and light.  Really?  Yes!

Salt and Light

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.  Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.  Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.  (Matthew 5:13-16)

You are called to be salt and light.  You are a light upon a hill.  You are a treasure in the kingdom of the Lord.  You are called with purpose.   You know this is true!  It resonates within your being.  How could it not be so?   Thus, you have a purpose and a calling and anything that takes you away from your purpose to do what someone else wants you to do – no matter how right it seems, should be evaluated in the light of your own calling.  It really needs to be a constant question of whether it is indeed something that you are called by the one who made you to go and do.

A Double Minded Man is Unstable in all his Ways

What does that have to do with the matter at hand?  There are lots of people and groups trying to get you to do something for them.  Does what they want have anything at all to do with your purpose and calling?  If so then proceed.  If not stop right there and learn to say NO!  Say it nicely or not now or let me think about it, but go no further until your purpose lines up with theirs!

If your calling is in one direction and you are giving your time to a group or person walking in another direction, then you are actually working against yourself and your calling to please a group or a man in conflict with your own purpose.  Do you see the instability here?  You become a person at war with your own self by virtue of bringing your time and talents under someone else’s agenda.  What if you don’t know they have a different direction and agenda than your purpose and calling?  Doesn’t make any difference in the result – only in your awareness of the result and the abuse.  They say ignorance is bliss, but I don’t find much bliss in being used and/or abused and I rather suspect that you don’t either.

Vetting Process

Thus it makes sense to spend some time investigating the people that you are connecting with and pondering giving time and money to help.  I wish this were easy and that I could make it easy for you, but it is a bit of a dance through life and you will find that no matter how good you think you are at the process, you still have something to learn.  I will say that there is some gifting of discernment and some are more gifted than others about these matters.  So if you are not so gifted, find a friend who is and prayerfully ponder how you proceed.  Here are some very concrete practical ideas, but they should be surrounded with prayer and the wise counsel that you are privy too:

1)    Know the history of the person or group.
2)    Know who is on the inner circle or advisory team for the group.
3)    Know who is on the board of directors.
4)    Know how the group is chartered (501c3, 501c4, 527, Nonprofit, Corporation, Business, Association)
5)    Know the written policy about money, lists, and information flow.  Find out if reports are filed routinely and properly if donations are collected and find out what percentage of costs are used to raise money.
6)    Find out if information flow is two-way and if you have appropriate and timely access to leadership.
7)    Find out if the goals of the group both stated and when put into action line up.
8)    Find out what people/group(s) have been endorsed or supported in the past and/or whom/what groups have been given money, assistance and list access.
9)    Find out what authority the leadership is under and if you agree with both the jurisdiction and the calling of the group. (Note: one must be under authority in order to have authority)
10)   Is the group top down or bottom up? If it is bottom up name local leaders in your area.
11)   Website(s)
12)  Contact information (national/state/local in your area)

A delightful blog post on Fruit Inspectors in Scripture

Be Fruit Inspectors

Many people will tell you not to judge people.  Well I just say that I am a fruit inspector.  By their fruits you shall know them.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  (Matthew 7:15-18).

Words are cheap unless backed up by actions and repetitively as well!  You will find that good fruit is properly connected to the vine and planted in good soil and living quiet and respectable lives too.  Does the person asking for your help in politics have his or her own household in good order?  This is not rocket science, this is really practical biblical wise counsel!

A good friend of mine Shelli Dawdy (@stubborn_facts) recently wrote an article about Ducks that comes to mind here.  If it waddles, has a bill, and quacks, guess what, it’s a duck!  So determine who you are dealing with and make wise decisions up front in the relationship.

Be instant in season

(or why put off until tomorrow what you can do today!)  We have much work to be done to take back our country and minister to the needs of a hurting community, so don’t procrastinate!  Be instant in season and don’t put off what you can do today.  What if tomorrow never comes!  If you don’t know what needs to be done, take a look at this for some ideas—–> Easy Volunteer Ideas for Everyone

Grassroots all the way!  Top Down vs Bottom Up

The pyramid has been inverted in our system for way too long.  Grassroots are beginning to wake up and understand that the pyramid balanced on the point is upside down and top heavy.  It will topple over.  Our system of a constitutional republic was structured to reserve rights (freedom and liberty) to the people with very limited government (both federal and state). Let’s be sure that our organizations and relationships work the same way.  You simply can’t build a house from the top down.  You must lay a firm foundation.  It requires an ongoing dialogue about why we are doing what we are doing and who will own the work product when we are done.  We must control our own groups and decide who our leaders are.  If we let it, the cream will rise to the top in our midst.  Work with people that you have access to and can look in the eye and hold accountable.

Note to self:  The media and the power people will not move aside willingly, but they will become irrelevant as soon as we look behind the curtain and discover how few of them there really are.  They only report the story to the masses.  We are the story and we must insist that they report ‘the story’ properly.

Now let’s get to work and take our country back winning hearts and minds as we go in our own neighborhoods.

For Life and Liberty,

Sandra Crosnoe
@scrosnoe on twitter

Sandra Crosnoe - Finding Gems & Sharing Them

Originally published in 2009  and re-released 2010 here

The Clarity of NO and the Power of Abstaining

Election 2010 is upon us and I want to talk to you about a matter that has been weighing on my heart for a while. For many years I have been involved in civic action, Republican party politics, conservative issues, and legislative grassroots activism.  So I come to you with a bit of experience in the fray.  Although I have invested much time and expended much energy over the years, what I am most pleased about is the circle of friends that I have who make a difference wherever they go and whatever they set their hands to doing.  They are awesome and serve as salt and light wherever they go.  The political process can be vicious and wicked and de-energizing, but if you are surrounded by people of principle who serve the Lord above man, then you find that what matters first and foremost is pleasing Him.  You also find that you are not alone and understand that it is not so much about winning, but about how you run the race.

Observing the political process might convince you to believe that we live in a left-right paradigm battle. I have learned over the years that such a notion is a distraction from what is really important, so much of the time and much of my life has been spent working on conservative matters and Christian values which I am not walking away from because they reside at the core of my being.  It is important to note that our Father God is the one who made us and created us and gave us a free will.  He calls us to come to Him and receive salvation and redemption from sin via His son’s death on the cross in our behalf.  He does not compel us to do so, but He does explain the consequences of not doing so clearly.  The consequences of failing to repent and turn are not good but altogether understandable in that righteousness cannot tolerate sin and still retain it’s own character.

So, if you feel that the political process is especially wicked and vicious, then welcome to the battle.  Did you really expect power to lay down and give up without a fight?  Did you really expect the enemy to say, “ahhh you were right and I was wrong – here are the reigns of power for you to constrain me from stealing from you and yours?”  Here are a couple of diagrams for you to ponder:

If you believe that reality is more like the latter, then you will want to consider the possible wisdom of protecting the constitutional rights of all the people all the time.  Which brings me to the real point of this piece – the power of abstaining and the importance of saying NO.

If you have not been given a legislative matter that is in complete agreement with the constitution – then just say NO.

If there isn’t a candidate on your ballot who you know to be a person who will bind themselves to the chains of the constitution, then abstain from voting for the ‘lesser of two evils’ and work hard to get some better choices next time.

I have a personal policy of not supporting people who vote for bailouts and stimulus spending and/or support abortion. Needless to say, the list of people I will vote for is shorter than most people’s list. I do not feel compelled to mark every slot. I vote for people of principle as best I can ascertain in any given cycle.

You will hear a lot about the lesser of two evils this cycle and you will have to ascertain how far you can go down that slippery slope until you get into the morass of actually being complicit with evil.  I find that all the joy goes out of the election process for me when I am coerced and encouraged to vote for people who I know have defrauded me.  Therefore I choose to vote for and work for people of principle in the primary.  If we get to the general election and there is noone of principle in the race who conforms to my personal standards of ethics and decency – I simply skip the slot and move on.  I encourage you to do the same.  You will feel a lot better about your vote and the political process.  You will understand how important it is to be engaged and involved along the way.  You may even find that you understand some of our legislators a little better and pray for them as they make difficult decisions along the way.  I hope so because the heart of the king is the Lord’s hands!

The king’s heart [is] in the hand of the LORD, [as] the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.  Proverbs 21:1

We must learn to let our yes be yes and our no be no.

But above all things, my brothers, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yes be yes; and your no, no.  James 5: 12

We must abstain from evil and not permit certain practices in our homes and in our communities.  We must understand the power of abstaining from evil in a society where it is rampant and often even called ‘good’.  We must be salt and light and occupy until He returns.

“You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again?    Matthew 5:13

Go vote even if you run a blank ballot through with a prayer – but this cycle there are several state questions deserving of a clear NO and a few candidates worthy of support in my opinion.  I will be posting on the state questions here soon.  I might even endorse a candidate or two, so stay tuned!

Blessings

Sandie

Your Time is a Real Treasure

Your Time is a Real Treasure

or Volunteering 101

by Sandra Crosnoe

It has come to my attention that there are some people and organizations trying to abuse the grassroots (i.e. middle America, the silent majority, the real people).  They are doing it in some very manipulative ways and I want to be sure that you are properly informed and warned.  We need to vet the organizations that are seeking to solicit our help.  Now as you read this you are going to think you know the organizations and the people I am referring to.  And you very well may.  But I assure you the guidelines that I am going to spell out for you make sense even if you think you know the people and know them well.  Trust is an interesting commodity.  Once lost it is difficult to regain.  So proceed with caution.  You are about to have your eyes opened wide and may well learn to vet before you trust and even then proceed with caution!

Salt and Light

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.  Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.  Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.  Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.  (Matthew 5:13-16)

treasureoftime

You are called to be salt and light.  You are a light upon a hill.  You are a treasure in the kingdom of the Lord.  You are called with purpose.   You know this is true!  It resonates within your being.  How could it not be so?   Thus, you have a purpose and a calling and anything that takes you away from your purpose to do what someone else wants you to do – no matter how right it seems, should be evaluated in the light of your own calling.  It really needs to be a constant question of whether it is indeed something that you are called by the one who made you to go and do.

A Double Minded Man is Unstable

What does that have to do with the matter at hand?  Well this, there are lots of people and groups trying to get you to do something for them.  Does what they want have anything at all to do with your purpose and calling?  If so then proceed.  If not stop right there and learn to say NO!  Say it nicely or not now or let me think about it, but go no further until your purpose lines up with theirs!

If your calling is in one direction and you are giving your time to a group or person walking in another direction, then you are actually working against yourself and your calling to please a group or a man in conflict with your own purpose.

Do you see the instability here?  You become a person at war with your own self by virtue of bringing your time and talents under someone else’s agenda.  What if you don’t know they have a different direction and agenda than your purpose and calling?  Doesn’t make any difference in the result – only in your awareness of the result and the abuse.  They say ignorance is bliss, but I don’t find much bliss in being used and/or abused and I rather suspect that you don’t either.

Vetting Process

Thus it makes sense to spend some time investigating the people that you are connecting with and pondering giving time and money to help.  I wish this were easy and that I could make it easy for you, but it is a bit of a dance through life and you will find that no matter how good you think you are at the process, you still have something to learn.  I will say that there is some gifting of discernment and some are more gifted than others about these matters.  So if you are not so gifted, find a friend who is and prayerfully ponder how you proceed.  Here are some very concrete practical ideas, but they should be surrounded with prayer and the wise counsel that you are privy too:

1)    Know the history of the person or group.
2)    Know who is on the inner circle or advisory team for the group.
3)    Know who is on the board of directors.
4)    Know how the group is chartered (501c3, 501c4, 527, Nonprofit, Corporation, Business, Association)
5)    Know the written policy about money, lists, and information flow.  Find out if reports are filed routinely and properly if donations are collected and find out what percentage of costs are used to raise money.
6)    Find out if information flow is two-way and if you have appropriate and timely access to leadership.
7)    Find out if the goals of the group both stated and when put into action line up.
8)    Find out what people/group(s) have been endorsed or supported in the past and/or whom/what groups have been given money, assistance and list access.
9)    Find out what authority the leadership is under and if you agree with both the jurisdiction and the calling of the group. (Note: one must be under authority in order to have authority)
10)   Is the group top down or bottom up? If it is bottom up name local leaders in your area.
11)   Website(s)
12)  Contact information (national/state/local in your area)

Be a Fruit Inspector

 

Many people will tell you not to judge people.  Well I just say that I am a fruit inspector.  By their fruits you shall know them.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?  Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.  (Matthew 7:15-18).

Words are cheap unless backed up by actions and repetitively as well!  You will find that good fruit is properly connected to the vine and planted in good soil and living quiet and respectable lives too.  Does the person asking for your help in politics have his or her own household in good order?  This is not rocket science, this is really practical biblical wise counsel!

A good friend of mine Shelli Dawdy (@stubborn_facts) recently wrote an article about Ducks that comes to mind here.  If it waddles, has a bill, and quacks, guess what, it’s a duck!  So determine who you are dealing with and make wise decisions up front in the relationship.

Be instant in season  (or why put off until tomorrow what you can do today!)

 

On the other hand, we have much work to be done to take back our country and minister to the needs of a hurting community, so don’t procrastinate!  Be instant in season and don’t put off what you can do today.  What if tomorrow never comes!  I have a little post about things that everyone can do – so if you don’t know what needs to be done, take a look at this for some ideas—–> Easy Volunteer Ideas for Everyone

Top Down vs Bottom Up

The pyramid has been inverted in our system for way too long.  The grassroots are beginning to wake up and understand that the pyramid balanced on the point is upside down and top heavy and will topple over.  Our system of a constitutional republic was structured to reserve rights (freedom and liberty) to the people with very limited government (both federal and state).

Let’s be sure that our organizations and relationships work the same way.  You simply can’t build a house from the top down.  You must lay a firm foundation.

. . . . so let the Silent Majority Speak UP

Let the people control the groups and decide who their leaders are.  Let the cream rise to the top.  The media and the power people will not move aside willingly, but they will become irrelevant as soon as you look behind the curtain and discover how few of them there are and how many of you there are.

And now for a practical exercise:  If you volunteer with an organization and you would be willing to tell us the answers to Items 1-12 above, we will publish a chart with your answers.  If you want additional items added, let me know that too.  Happy Vetting!  Comments and findings welcomed below!

For Life and Liberty,
Sandie Crosnoe
@scrosnoe on twitter

Sandra Crosnoe - Finding Gems & Sharing Them

Originally published July 13, 2009

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