OK2A March Meeting with Senator Nathan Dahm on March 22 at Heartland Church in Tulsa

This just in via email from Wayne Hill:

 Here is the notice for our March meeting this Thursday evening (March 22) at 6:30.  Our quest speakers will be State Senator Nathan Dahm who is a US Congressional Candidate for the 1st District.  Senator Dahm is a strong supporter of Liberty and the 2nd Amendment.  He is the author and sponsor of many of our bills.  Please come and show your support for our friend Senator Natham Dahm.  We will also have a legislative update.

Please invite your friends and relatives.

In Liberty,


NRA endorsements for key Oklahoma Senate races in Republican primary – Daniels, Dahm, Loveless

NRA Endorsements state by stateHighlighting some of the most important senate races across the state here in this post but you can see all the endorsements from the NRA here >>>.

Oklahoma State Senate District 29 – Julie Daniels (Aq)

Oklahoma State Senate District 33 – Nathan Dahm (A+)

Oklahoma State Senate District 45 – Kyle Loveless (A+)


NRA endorsement for Julie Daniels SD29

NRA endorsement for Nathan Dahm SD33

NRA endorsment for Kyle Loveless SD45

The NRA rarely goes against an incumbent with a good rating because they have an actual track record of voting rather than simply answers on a questionnaire. (Aq = rating on questionnaire / A+ includes voting records, ? = failure to respond) so when voting records are available that is factored into the endorsement rating.

Finding Gems & Sharing Them – NRA endorsements for key Oklahoma Senate races

FFC History: Seventy-two killed resisting gun confiscation in Boston!

Boston – National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.

Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement.

Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order.

Rest of article here: fauquierfreecitizen.com/seventy-two-killed…

Posted by Sandra Crosnoe for Finding Gems & Sharing Them

Oklahoma Handgun License Class March 16th at Cedar Creek Range near Tulsa

To All,

Pass this along to anyone interested in taking our next

Oklahoma Handgun License class,

formerly called “Concealed Carry”

Next class is Saturday, March 16th, at 9:30 a.m. at Cedar Creek Range (36 miles east of Tulsa). 

graphic1Class is 8 hours, so attendees need to bring a lunch. We take a 30 minute lunch break around noon.

Also required:  a hard bill ball cap, semi-auto pistol and one box of 50 rounds of ammo.

Cost is $60 plus a $5 range fee.

We provide targets and eye and ear protection for those who don’t have their own.

We do have rental guns in 9mm, .45cal  and .22. All are semi-autos. If you qualify with the semi-auto you can carry semi or revolver. If you only qualify with a revolver that is all you can carry.

We have ammo available which varies in cost depending on caliber (.22 $7 a box, 9mm $25 a box, .40 and .45 is $28 a box). Cost could change due to problems replacing ammo during the current shortage and we only sell to attendees who need a box for the class, not to the public.

If interested contact us via telephone to sign up. We require $35 in advance to hold a seat as the class size is limited.

PH: 918-386-2978 or 918-386-2550


Directions from Tulsa:

Take Hwy 412 east (from the Cherokee/Hard Rock Casino it is 31 miles to the next turn).

After passing Hwy 69 (Wagoner/Chouteau exit) continue east and stay in left lane. Do not get on the Cherokee Hwy 412 turnpike). Sign says Alt 412 toward Locust Grove.

The first intersection you will come to is county road S 437.  This is also known as Sam’s Corner (old convenience store on the southwest corner with sign that says Sam’s Corner Store).

Turn right/south and go exactly 5 miles to Cedar Crest Baptist Church.

Turn left at the church and go one block to next T intersection.  Turn right and go to THIRD gravel drive on left. You will see the range house next to the entrance with the sign “Cedar Creek Range” on the side of the building.

Turn in and park on the left side of the gravel drive in the grass down near the butts/target line.  Classroom is next to the flag pole just north of the range (green metal roof).

Instructors are state certified handgun instructors and NRA certified instructors Craig Roberts and John Baker. Both instructors have career law enforcement experience and teach from experience unlike some SDA instructors with little or no law enforcement background. (Roberts is an Oklahoma SPOA Master qualified pistol shot and formerly a member of the Governor’s Twenty military pistol team. Baker is an NRA Training Counselor and can teach most NRA basic, advanced and instructor courses).

PH: 918-386-2978 or 918-386-2550

Some basic safety instructions from the NRA website here (much more info on site)

1. ALWAYS keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
This is the primary rule of gun safety. A safe direction means that the gun is pointed so that even if it were to go off it would not cause injury or damage. The key to this rule is to control where the muzzle or front end of the barrel is pointed at all times. Common sense dictates the safest direction, depending on different circumstances.
2. ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
When holding a gun, rest your finger on the trigger guard or along the side of the gun. Until you are actually ready to fire, do not touch the trigger.
3. ALWAYS keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.
Whenever you pick up a gun, immediately engage the safety device if possible, and, if the gun has a magazine, remove it before opening the action and looking into the chamber(s) which should be clear of ammunition. If you do not know how to open the action or inspect the chamber(s), leave the gun alone and get help from someone who does.

For policy information and legislative updates visit Gun Owners of America

Posted by Sandra Crosnoe for Finding Gems & Sharing Them and OKGrassroots


Taking the Law into Your Own Hands

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Taking the Law Into Your Own Hands

My wife and I [Joseph Hebert] recently took the class to get our concealed weapons permits here in Oklahoma. We’ve been here six years, so I guess it’s about time. We used to have our permits in Texas, but had to relinquish them when we moved here. Even then, after writing letters and lobbying hard to get the concealed carry law passed, it was several years before we actually got the permits. I guess I’m just not that big of a gun nut.

Still, it got me to thinking about the line delineating self-defense and taking the law into your own hands. I don’t have a problem with people defending themselves, or their families, or even their neighbors and property. But no one should take the law into their own hands. Should they?

Of course we all know that it is wrong to take the law into your own hands, by which I mean seeking one’s own justice, retribution or whatever you choose to call vengeance, but why? Stated simply, it’s wrong because God said “Vengeance is mine. I will repay,” (see Hebrews 10: 30). It is not for you and I to take upon ourselves that which God has reserved for Himself.

Unfortunately, a lot of Christians get the impression that if we forgive those who sin against us, they’re getting away with something. They are not. Understand first that when we forgive we do so for our own sake, not theirs. Note that God said “I will repay!” God will meet out justice against them, and our forgiveness doesn’t change that. What it does change is us. Instead of carrying around emotional baggage of hatred and bitterness we let it go and move on, growing in Jesus and spiritual strength.

And don’t think that God’s vengeance exists only in the next life either. I would refer you to Romans chapter 13. There Paul makes plain that all governmental powers exist because God ordained them, and for a purpose too.

But if thou doeth that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain; for he is the minister of God, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Romans 13: 4b

This verse should make two things painfully clear to anyone willing to see. First, it is folly to believe that God’s vengeance will be forestalled until the next life. Second, if it is wrong for you and I to take our own vengeance, is it not at least equally wrong for the government not to?

Indeed, there are going to be any number of governors, judges, legislators and other officials who will be held to answer for their failings. Today judges seem more interested in rehabilitating prisoners than punishing them. But is it their place to “rehabilitate” prisoners?

God did not charge the government with rehabilitating men, or reforming them or whatever you choose to call creating anew. It is God, not government, who makes men new creations. And when governors and judges try to make this part of the judicial system, they are usurping God’s role in the lives of men.

So yes, we should forgive, but the government should punish and leave the administration of God’s mercy and grace to Christians and the churches.

Or should they? Maybe it’s not so simple as that. Consider the first part of the verse just cited.

For he is the minister of God to thee for good.

Romans13: 4a

As tempting as it might be to blame our cultural crisis on an out-of-control liberal government, perhaps the blame is more rightfully our own. It’s certainly true that governments around the world have taken onto themselves many functions that God left to the churches and to Christians. But, we cannot ignore the fact that the churches and Christians have been all too happy to let them, and the results have been tragic.

Take, for example, healing the sick. Look at healthcare everywhere that it has been taken over by government. Who in England or Canada stayed to get free health care in their own tax-funded systems? Those who had a choice spent their own money to come to America where they could still find private sector health care, often administered in hospitals with names that reflected Christian denominational association.

What about education. God’s Word tells us the family is responsible to educate their own children (e.g. Deuteronomy 6: 7; 11: 19), but once again we find governments doing what God intended others to do. So tell me this. When our elected officials go to Washington D.C., do they put their children in those same public schools they impose on others, or do they send their children to private schools?

No, if God intended the government to be His minister to us for good, then we have no one to blame but ourselves when the government takes over those responsibilities that we shirked.

Consider caring for the poor? Do widows and orphans and the infirm look to the church for their needs? Or do they turn to the government? And when people turned to the government for help, did the church stand up and say to the government, “No! It’s not your place to care for the poor. That’s our job!” Or did pastors and deacons and congregations across the nation look at each other, quietly holding their tongues, enamored of lucre and forgetful that the money they thought of as their own was in fact the Lord’s, and silently think how much nicer their sanctuaries and worship services could be once they didn’t have to spend so much on handouts?

Of course, we’re not the first to disobey God, to subvert His will to the slaking of our own lusts, only to try and obfuscate our disobedience as though it were service to Him. Once upon a time God told Saul to wipe out the Amalakites, right down to every last sheep and ox. God was very clear that none should be left alive. Still, when Samuel showed up at their camp he found something else.

And Samuel came to Saul: and Saul said unto him, Blessed [be] thou of the LORD: I have performed the commandment of the LORD. And Samuel said, What [meaneth] then this bleating of the sheep in mine ears, and the lowing of the oxen which I hear? And Saul said, They have brought them from the Amalekites: for the people spared the best of the sheep and of the oxen, to sacrifice unto the LORD thy God; and the rest we have utterly destroyed.

I Samuel 15: 13 – 15

And Samuel said, Hath the LORD [as great] delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey [is] better than sacrifice, [and] to hearken than the fat of rams.

I Samuel 15: 22

So tell me this. Which do you think God is most impressed with? Our finely appointed sanctuaries or our state-of-the-art multimedia audio/visual systems? Or might He have preferred that we care for the poor? Does anyone really believe that He might one day say, “When you amplified your voices through mixing boards and projected my words onto screens for all to see and hear, you did it unto me?”

No, that’s not right. Oh yeah! I remember now. He’s going to say …

Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of the least of these, ye did [it] not to me.

Matthew 25: 45b

So if the government is taking over responsibilities that it was never intended to bear, it’s at least in part because we chose disobedience as our course. And make no mistake, the consequences of our disobedience are tragic.

Are the poor cared for? Is their circumstance improved? Or are they now condemned because of our disobedience?

Think about it for a moment. Are the poor grateful to God for their provision? Are they grateful to anyone? Are they humble in their asking for, and appreciative when they receive, help? Or are they now emboldened with a sense of entitlement? Does their sense of pride make them more or less amenable to accepting God’s grace? Or do they now look upon charity, the very definition of Christian love, with disdain, as though it were evil?

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto [them that are] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto [them that are] mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Isaiah 5: 20 – 23

So no, I don’t think the poor have been well served on our watch. They are made prideful and unthankful toward God. With vanity they think government handouts are their goodly due, protecting them from being humbled, and they despise Christian charity as an affront to their pride. In other words, they call evil good and good evil, all because we all too happily allowed the government to usurp our responsibility.

Yes, in time every judge that uses our First Amendment to protect filth-mongers like Larry Flynt and Hugh Hefner, while also using it to prevent high school students from praying at their own graduations, will stand before God to answer. And God has already told us what He’ll say to them. He is going to say, “Woe unto you, who justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!”

When judges and government officials fail to do as God ordained, they will be held to account. Many judges like to point out that ignorance of the law is no excuse. Similarly, even if they refuse to admit it, those judges derive their legitimate power from God, and He will hold them accountable, both for failing to do what they should and for trying to do what they shouldn’t.

But don’t think that we are blameless in this. We didn’t just allow this, many of us welcomed it. Indeed, many of us caused it by refusing to do as God required of us. Eve blamed the serpent, Adam blamed Eve and God both. Saul blamed his soldiers. Let’s not you and I try to blame anyone else. Even if the government insists on doing what it shouldn’t, that’s no reason for you and I to not do as we should.

So what exactly is it that we’re supposed to do? Just care for the poor?

What we are supposed to do is love God above all others, love our neighbors as ourselves, and love our brothers and sisters in Christ as He loved us. In this is the fulfillment of all the Law. In other words, we really should take the Law into our own hands.

Originally posted here >>>

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[Editor’s note: Special thanks to Joseph Hebert for permission to reprint and share some of his articles here on Finding Gems & Sharing Them.  He is a believer and a scientist and has recently challenged my thinking and touched my spirit on many levels.  I hope you will delight in the wisdom he brings to issues we as a society are currently wrestling with.  May we hear the Lord above the noise and serve Him well with our time and treasure! Sandra Crosnoe]

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