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Gets Grizzly

Archives on Blog Talk Radio


Shelli @stubborn_facts & Sandra @scrosnoe

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Dates of show are most recent on top:

(updated weekly for your convenience if you missed the live show – don’t forget we often go into archives and continue visiting with our special guests / the only way for you to hear that is to check the archives)


08/18/09 Review the Freedom 21 Conference that just took place in Oklahoma and some of the interviews that were conducted for the documentary film project mentioned last week – focus on RJ Harris and his race in Oklahoma CD04.  We continued to talk about the health care bill debate, including efforts both by elected officials and organized groups to divert the discussion by various means.

Michael Maresco’s update was postponed until next week due to a scheduling conflict this week.  He will return to give us more details about the journey and next steps for the Liberty Rider.

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08/11/09 Talking about the difference between democracy and republic and how much the United States has strayed from our founding principles – specially as related to government spending/taxation and the idea of “free” services.  Our guests Nathan, a college bound student who will be majoring in history with tentative plans to become a Constitutional attorney, and Linda Rohman, an attorney turned homeschool mother who has been working to limit spending in her local city government.  Brief update from Michael Maresco, our Liberty Rider, on his journey from Freedom to Fascism.  Next week, Michael will return to give us more details about the journey and next steps.  We continued talking about ways to get involved in archives after the live show completed.

Reminder about Freedom21 Conference in OKC area August 13-15

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08/04/09 a little about DC (Shelli’s monologue)

Special guest Amanda Teegarden (OK-safe) tells us about Freedom21 Conference in OKC area August 13-15

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WH mentions Facts are Stubborn Things

I’m a Pepper Piece (actual title was  “I’m a Christian, They’re a Christian, Wouldn’t You Like to Be a Christian, Too?”}


07/28/09 The President’s boo-boo (Shelli’s monologue)

Special guest RJ Harris candidate for CD04 Congressional seat in Oklahoma (will be replacing bailout voter Tom Cole but will need your help to do so!)

——> link for show here (Note: we continued visiting with RJ in archives about the length of bills and just say NO!)


07/21/09 (grassroots coalitions – the next phase – WOW!)

Special Guests Bryan Thome (Texas), Chris Comeaus (Louisiana), and an update from Michael Maresco as nears Alcatraz!

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07/16/09  (outstanding interview – don’t miss this one!)

SPECIAL EPISODE: Interview with Gun Owners of America Executive Director, Larry Pratt co-hosts Shelli Dawdy and Sandra Crosnoe will discuss the efforts of GOA to protect Americans’ Second Amendment and other rights.  Conversation will focus particularly Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor and what approving her to this lifetime seat on the Court would mean to our Second Amendment and other rights. The Constitutional Liberty Coalition is dedicated to supporting grassroots efforts that encourage personal responsibility, limited government , and free markets. Shelli Dawdy and Sandra Crosnoe are grassroots activists in their states of Nebraska, and Oklahoma, respectively, and network with other grassroots leaders in many states. The CLC Gets Grizzly can be heard regularly each week at 7pm central.

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Status of the Sotomayor hearings in the Senate Judiciary Committee and proposal to consider a Strikeday from Robert Drobot of San Jose

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Teaparties and Cap and Trade Bill, 10th Amendment (Balloon release),  State Sovereignty then we hear more details about some of the Independence Day Tea Parties that occurred across the country:

1) Brian Campbell of Colorado on his way to the Young Republican meeting

2) Joan Fabiano (CLC) at state capitol in Lansing MI July 4 Tea Party (Success story keeping it grassroots!)

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cute commercial with Shelli’s husband at opening!  Cap and Trade Bill (how far off the reservation we’ve come or how to ‘sneak’ bad bills through Congress with the help of MSM / death of a pedophile covered over and above bad legislation)

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cute commercial opening with monologue on Why NOT a march on DC! (Shelli) – keep it local and in your state!

Featuring Kaye Beach – Grassroots Lobbying in Oklahoma

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$135 billion Treasury bond seizure on the Italian border and the lack of coverage (Shelli)

Liberty Rider Reaches Oklahoma and we get an update from Michael Maresco on his journey across the state. RJ Harris candidate for Congress in Oklahoma also updates everyone on his race

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Ducks and Websites – Teaparty Grassroots

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06/02/09 What is the Grassroots?

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Michael Maresco the Liberty Rider – update from Pennsylvania

Teaparty Grassroots update and Kaye Beach (@Axxiom) update on grassroots lobby efforts in Oklahoma

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Constitutional Liberty Coalition formation and goals – came basically out of our of need to protect the grassroots

Eric – Temerity Magazine

Michael Maresco – Liberty Rider

Joan Fabiano – Teaparty Grassroots

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originally published 07/21/09 republished weekly as updated



CLC gets grizzly tonight – Sotomayor hearings and Strikeday proposal

Sandra Crosnoe - Finding Gems & Sharing Them


Join Sandra Crosnoe and Shelli Dawdy on Blog Talk Radio this evening on The Constitutional Liberty Coalition Gets Grizzly as we discuss the status of the Sotomayor hearings in the Senate Judiciary Committee and consider a Strikeday proposal from Robert Drobot of San Jose.

Also, we will get a brief update on the status of H.R. 2454, the “Cap & Trade” bill. When will the Senate vote on this now?

Have a Tea Party “tale” to share or thoughts on Sotomayor confirmation?

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The CLC Gets Grizzly on Tuesdays!

Sandra Crosnoe - Finding Gems & Sharing Them

[Editor’s note: Archived shows are available and links will be posted soon here, but until then you can find the show archives by dates. Archives (links will be provided soon):

  • CLC 07/07/09 on Grassroots Teaparties and Cap & Trade Issue (guests include CLC member Joan Fabioano of Lansing Michigan and others)
  • CLC 07/01/09 on Grassroots (guest Kaye Beach)
  • CLC 06/23/09 on$135 Billion Treasury Bond Seizure, Liberty Rider Reaches Oklahoma (guest Michael Maresco)
  • CLC 06/16/09 on Ducks. Thanks for tuning in and joining us on the call and sharing with friends!

Talk radio is only as good as citizen participation and that means YOU! Blessings/sc

ps Michael Maresco checked in after the call and will try to join us next week – he is currently in Arizona and has other riders with him at present. He has a car traveling with the riders with plenty of water for crossing the desert in the heat. Thanks for caring and for the support for our LibertyRiders!]

clcradioiconJoin Shelli Dawdy and I on Blog Talk Radio this evening on The Constitutional Liberty Coalition Gets Grizzly as we hear more details about some of the Independence Day Tea Parties that occurred across the country.

CLC member Joan Fabiano of Lansing, MI, will join us to talk about her event at the State Capitol.

This round of Tea Parties didn’t receive the same media focus or buzz that was seen in April. Also, the events occurred on a holiday weekend. Further, there wasn’t a central entity online as also was the case in April. Did any of these phenomenon suppress turn out?

Also, we will get up to date on the status of H.R. 2454, the “Cap & Trade” bill.  When will the Senate vote on this soon? What’s in those 1400+ pages?

Finally, we hope that Liberty Rider, Michael Maresco will have a minute to give us an update on his whereabouts.

Have a Tea Party “tale” to share or thoughts on Cap & Trade?

Call us! 646-915-9997

Tuesday nights at 8PM EDT * 7PM CDT *6PM MDT * 5PM PDT

R3publicans announce new website!

Sandra Crosnoe - Finding Gems & Sharing Them


This website is being released in draft format. I am inviting all my friends and twitter buddies to come and visit and leave comments. Send me an email if you want to blog on the new site for R3publican and/or if you would like to be listed on our friends page. Click on the R3 logo on the right to see the new site >>>>

The top post on the new site is about our Citizen’s Assembly for Oklahoma Sovereignty Event planned for January 3rd in OKC @ 7PM. Charles Key, Constance Johnson, and more will brief us on the topic in our first bipartisan format. We look forward to seeing how we can all work together on matters to protect the rights of all among us!

Please welcome Kaye Beach to our site and be sure to read her first post on Biometrics and the importance of you being informed on the topic. Make plans now to come to OKC on Jan 3rd if at all possible!


Biometrics+RFID Technology+Data Sharing=International ID & Tracking System

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I am sure everyone has seen this astonishing (for some) article from the Financial Times that openly speaks of the real possibility for the formation of some form of a global government.

And now for a world government

We all want to wake up our fellow citizens to the peril that we are aware of but I think that our efforts at the moment will be more effective aimed at lawmakers. There is plenty of “waking up” to do among the people working under the capitol dome in OKC and other states. One thing we can do besides wringing our hands is to start inundating our lawmakers in our very own state and ask them to protect the sovereignty of Oklahoma by adopting the Tenth Amendment Resolution as quickly as possible, as first order of business this legislative session.  This resolution is accompanied by approximately 8-9 bills created to specifically address the outrageous identification methods proposed by the federal government that does nothing to increase the security of Americans and instead will make them more vulnerable and less free than ever before.

Oklahomans will hold an assembly to promote the Tenth Amendment Resolution and other bills being introduced (not only on Oklahoma, but in as many as 20 states across the country) that would create new laws designed to prevent misuse of technology that puts our most basic rights in jeopardy.

The Citizens Assembly for Oklahoma Sovereignty will be held on Jan. 3rd, 2009 at 7pm in OKC.

The Real ID act is the most widely known example of the sort of technology misuse we aim to stop. The fact that it is an unfunded mandate is not the worst part of this act.  The collection and sharing of biometric data, not only nationally but INTERNATIONALLY that it enables would undermine our freedom on so many levels as to render the liberties we still retain a moot point.  Don’t let them snow you-this is exactly what they intend to do.

The Homeland Security Department’s plans for sharing biometric information internationally — designed to counter the threat of terrorism — face resistance from domestic privacy advocates and European governments that follow stricter privacy laws that protect personal data.

Senior DHS officials speaking at a recent conference on biometrics and privacy policy outlined the ethical imperative for technical standards that would foster unrestricted biometric data sharing. And while they say they recognize and agree with the need for privacy policy, threats of terrorism require governments and private companies to completely eliminate barriers to biometric data sharing.

Robert Mocny, acting program manager for the U.S. Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology program, sketched the outline of a Global Security Envelope of internationally shared biometric data that would permanently link individuals with their personal data held by governments and corporations.

read more here>>

Although Oklahoma has prohibited participation in the REAL ID in 2007 when we passed SB 474, Gov. Brad Henry, who signed off on the bill later submitted a request to the Dept. of Homeland Security asking for an extension. This gives the impression that we may comply but need more time or resources.

This system is worse that a national ID, it will be a global ID

Under the REAL ID ACT, state drivers licenses’ must have a machine-readable strip that will contain personal information that could be accessed by foreign governments as well as private corporations.  The biometric data and the other personal data would become part of a database accessible not only by state agencies, but by the federal government and foreign governments, including Mexico and Canada.

Mark Lerner, nationally recognized biometric expert, cuts to the chase. “With the issues facing the world; war, economic chaos, poverty, dwindling resources, population growth and so on our government and others want a system of control over people and resources.  I ask everyone to consider there is only one reason our government is using standards (international) that call for global interoperability, the reason being control of the people.”

Biometrics is the key because biometrics allow for both the long distance and short distance identification of people.” says Mark.

By the way, a simple digital photo is all that is needed to gain your facial biometrics (facial recognition technology) you can be entered in this system of networked databases without ever giving consent. The DMV, for example, uses your digital snapshot taken for a state driver’s license in Oklahoma this way. CCTV, the surveillance cameras you see popping up everywhere also do the trick.

RFID industry insiders say the within 3 years the RFID readers will be refined enough to be read by low orbiting satellites (within 200 miles of the earth)

Your Biometrics entered into a database that is networked with other databases along with a little help from RFID technology and Walla! You now have yourself a global ID and tracking system. What could one do with one of those? Just imagine the possibilities….Please! Consider the possibilities.

**Biometrics is an individual’s unique behavioral, physical traits that are translated to digital form. See this document from OK-SAFE.,Inc. for more on biometrics.

If we permit these steps (Biometric collection, retention and sharing, the connecting of databases and RFID enabled documents) to be taken- then That is it!

There is no way to reverse it.  Once those databases are linked they will not be undone.  Our federal government, private corporations and international bodies will then have the ability either through malice, mistake or simply through the inevitable glitches that are present even in the best of data management systems, be able to separate us from buying, selling, traveling, working, receiving health care and a host of other of life’s necessities. Not to mention what a gold mine this would be for hackers and identity thieves. The U.S. government cannot even keep its own data secure.

Security experts lift lid on Chinese hack attacks

But the government won’t be in control of your information; the databases will be managed by private corporations like AAMVA.

Here is an example of the fine work of EDS, the company that will and already is handling the AAMVA’s (American Association of Motor Vehicles Administrators) database;

Mark Lerner of the Constitutional Alliance made this statement when he recently addressed the Michigan House of Representatives;

Lawmakers at the state and federal level have been assured American’s personal information was not being shared with foreign governments.  Obviously information is being shared through (American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators)  There is also Robert Mocny’s, of DHS, comments about sharing information with Europe, Asia and corporations to create a global security envelope Finally, an article in the Washington Post recently specifically addresses the collecting and potential sharing of American’s personal information with foreign governments.  It is noteworthy that DHS posted their intentions in the Federal Register.  It took a month for any media outlet to discover the positing in the Federal Register

Countries obligated to share data, U.S. official says

Mocny said governments should work together to build “a global infrastructure” of technology and systems to share information while ensuring that privacy protections and ethical practices are in place. He said “it makes no sense” to build “separate and disparate systems that don’t talk to each other.”

Essentially, your federally mandated Real ID card will be what grants you the ability to go about your necessary, daily life functions. Our Natural Rights are granted to us by virtue of birth by our Creator- Our rights to life, liberty, property . . .those are the un-a-lien-able (intrinsic, non-transferred)rights of every one of us since the moment we entered this world! Will you allow anyone to wield the power to separate you from the essential rights you came into this world possessing as a human being? It is not hard to grasp the danger that such a system presents to a free people.

If you feel overwhelmed by the myriad of issues facing us that threaten to destroy the founding principles of the United States, let me suggest a course of action that stands a chance to protect us against most of the worst of it.  Let your representatives know that you want our state to pass the Tenth Amendment Resolution. Tell them that Oklahoma must act to protect our constitutional guarantees to self-government.  This is the 11th hour and not the time for compromise.  Make an impression on the lawmakers who will not take steps to protect your rights. Call them – make it part of your schedule to make one call, send one email, one letter a day to your reps.



Project Vote Smart is a great resource

Mark this date on your calendar-January 3rd at 7pm there will be a Citizens Assembly for Oklahoma Sovereignty held in OKC.

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R3publican Announcement

If you live elsewhere, find out what your legislators plan to do about this and how you can help them to be informed.


We are called to stand behind the lawmakers who have the courage to stand up to for the US Constitution and to the federal government.

The people will have to step up to the plate now and be willing to do whatever it takes to get their attention. This is too big of an issue to just leave entirely up to our lawmakers’ judgment . They may need more information and encouragement from us. Let’s do whatever it takes to stop this system from being imposed upon us including personal visits, handwritten letters and phone calls Let’s be thinking of more creative ways of getting the message across too. Can we send them singing telegrams? How about a quartet (or herd) of off-key, angry constituents? Caroling anyone? I’m not really joking, whatever it takes!

Call your representative and find out where he or she stands on the Tenth Amendment, Real ID, RFID, biometric identification and info sharing. How about the improper use of Social security numbers? One of the bills we need to support covers that too.

So far as I know, in OK we have about 8 representatives willing to take the high and narrow path by sponsoring specific legislation to prevent our information from being, collected, retained or shared in such a way as to compromise the rights of Oklahomans. Randy Brogdon (D), Charles Key(R), Mike Ritze (R), Anthony Sykes (R), Constance Johnson (D), Marion Cooksey (R), George Faught (R), and Jason Murphey (R).

We can, we must stop the destruction of this Republic. A strong turnout to the Citizens Assembly on Jan 3rd will help embolden other state officials to cast their lot for the US Constitution and will serve notice to the ones that will not that the tide is turning against big government.

Please join us on January 3, 2009 at the “Citizens Assembly for Oklahoma Sovereignty”

In Liberty,


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