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Dates of show are most recent on top:

(updated weekly for your convenience if you missed the live show – don’t forget we often go into archives and continue visiting with our special guests / the only way for you to hear that is to check the archives)

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08/18/09 Review the Freedom 21 Conference that just took place in Oklahoma and some of the interviews that were conducted for the documentary film project mentioned last week – focus on RJ Harris and his race in Oklahoma CD04.  We continued to talk about the health care bill debate, including efforts both by elected officials and organized groups to divert the discussion by various means.

Michael Maresco’s update was postponed until next week due to a scheduling conflict this week.  He will return to give us more details about the journey and next steps for the Liberty Rider.

——> link for show here (Note: we continued visiting in the archives with our callin guest Ryan from SD)

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08/11/09 Talking about the difference between democracy and republic and how much the United States has strayed from our founding principles – specially as related to government spending/taxation and the idea of “free” services.  Our guests Nathan, a college bound student who will be majoring in history with tentative plans to become a Constitutional attorney, and Linda Rohman, an attorney turned homeschool mother who has been working to limit spending in her local city government.  Brief update from Michael Maresco, our Liberty Rider, on his journey from Freedom to Fascism.  Next week, Michael will return to give us more details about the journey and next steps.  We continued talking about ways to get involved in archives after the live show completed.

Reminder about Freedom21 Conference in OKC area August 13-15

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08/04/09 a little about DC (Shelli’s monologue)

Special guest Amanda Teegarden (OK-safe) tells us about Freedom21 Conference in OKC area August 13-15

——> link for show here (Note: we continued visiting in the archives with Amanda and links discussed are below)

WH mentions Facts are Stubborn Things

I’m a Pepper Piece (actual title was  “I’m a Christian, They’re a Christian, Wouldn’t You Like to Be a Christian, Too?”}

Dr. Steven Yates article entitled “The Real Matrix” (Red pill/blue pill stuff)

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07/28/09 The President’s boo-boo (Shelli’s monologue)

Special guest RJ Harris candidate for CD04 Congressional seat in Oklahoma (will be replacing bailout voter Tom Cole but will need your help to do so!)

——> link for show here (Note: we continued visiting with RJ in archives about the length of bills and just say NO!)

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07/21/09 (grassroots coalitions – the next phase – WOW!)

Special Guests Bryan Thome (Texas), Chris Comeaus (Louisiana), and an update from Michael Maresco as nears Alcatraz!

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07/16/09  (outstanding interview – don’t miss this one!)

SPECIAL EPISODE: Interview with Gun Owners of America Executive Director, Larry Pratt co-hosts Shelli Dawdy and Sandra Crosnoe will discuss the efforts of GOA to protect Americans’ Second Amendment and other rights.  Conversation will focus particularly Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor and what approving her to this lifetime seat on the Court would mean to our Second Amendment and other rights. The Constitutional Liberty Coalition is dedicated to supporting grassroots efforts that encourage personal responsibility, limited government , and free markets. Shelli Dawdy and Sandra Crosnoe are grassroots activists in their states of Nebraska, and Oklahoma, respectively, and network with other grassroots leaders in many states. The CLC Gets Grizzly can be heard regularly each week at 7pm central.

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07/14/09

Status of the Sotomayor hearings in the Senate Judiciary Committee and proposal to consider a Strikeday from Robert Drobot of San Jose

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07/07/09

Teaparties and Cap and Trade Bill, 10th Amendment (Balloon release),  State Sovereignty then we hear more details about some of the Independence Day Tea Parties that occurred across the country:

1) Brian Campbell of Colorado on his way to the Young Republican meeting

2) Joan Fabiano (CLC) at state capitol in Lansing MI July 4 Tea Party (Success story keeping it grassroots!)

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06/30/09

cute commercial with Shelli’s husband at opening!  Cap and Trade Bill (how far off the reservation we’ve come or how to ‘sneak’ bad bills through Congress with the help of MSM / death of a pedophile covered over and above bad legislation)

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6/23/09

cute commercial opening with monologue on Why NOT a march on DC! (Shelli) – keep it local and in your state!

Featuring Kaye Beach – Grassroots Lobbying in Oklahoma

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06/16/09

$135 billion Treasury bond seizure on the Italian border and the lack of coverage (Shelli)

Liberty Rider Reaches Oklahoma and we get an update from Michael Maresco on his journey across the state. RJ Harris candidate for Congress in Oklahoma also updates everyone on his race

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06/09/09

Ducks and Websites – Teaparty Grassroots

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06/02/09 What is the Grassroots?

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05/26/09

Michael Maresco the Liberty Rider – update from Pennsylvania

Teaparty Grassroots update and Kaye Beach (@Axxiom) update on grassroots lobby efforts in Oklahoma

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05/19/09

Constitutional Liberty Coalition formation and goals – came basically out of our of need to protect the grassroots

Eric – Temerity Magazine

Michael Maresco – Liberty Rider

Joan Fabiano – Teaparty Grassroots

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originally published 07/21/09 republished weekly as updated

Grassroots Action Alert!

GET CONTACT INFORMATION FOR YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS’ HERE.

Calls needed to Senate on all bills mentioned below; House as well on Health Care Bill.

Where are the champions on these issues – melt the phones and tell us about the calls!

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Defeat S. 909 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Bill

Status: Currently in the Senate, this bill could come up for a vote as early as TODAY.

As reported on the Boston.com site, this hate crimes legislation has now been attached to a Defense spending bill that is currently on the Senate floor.

There are many problems with “hate crimes” legislation, including that violates the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment by providing special protections to some citizens it does not afford to others. It further violates the First Amendment by suppressing speech and religion.

On the Truth Tellers site, there is a video featuring testimony of Attorney General Eric Holder admitting that the bill doesn’t provide equal protection for all.

Defeat Sotomayor for Supreme Court

Status: Currently in Senate Judiciary Com and will pass out of committee easily. This should be a target vote and we should ask all constitutionalists R’s and D’s and I’s to oppose this confirmation based on:

1) right to keep and bear arms

2) private property and the respect thereof

3) prolife core issue

4) ethical standing before the committee

5) judicial temperment

For more information, visit the Gun Owners of America site

Defeat of Pass Act

Status: Currently in Senate.

For more information on this bill visit the following sites:

Stop Real ID Coalition

OK-Safe, read the July 2 posting

Defeat of Socialized Medicine

Status: Currently being proposed by Obama Administration, moved out of the Senate Health Committee on July 15

This bill may come up for a vote before Congress goes on the summer break.

A government take over of the US health care system will be a disaster both to our economy and to the quality of medical care.

For more information, see

The Cato Institute’s “Five Myths About Socialized Medicine”

Heritage Foundation “The House Health Care Bill a Blueprint for Federal Control”

Defeat of Cap and Trade

Status: Currently in Senate, reported to be delayed until after the summer break, passed out of the House on June 26

This bill stands to have ruinous effects on our economy, significant increases in costs for utilities and purchases, and intrusion of government into nearly every part our lives.

For more information visit Facts Are Stubborn Things

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GET CONTACT INFORMATION FOR YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS’ HERE

Calls needed to Senate on all bills mentioned above; House as well on Health Care Bill.

CLC gets grizzly tonight – Sotomayor hearings and Strikeday proposal

Join Sandra Crosnoe and Shelli Dawdy on Blog Talk Radio this evening on The Constitutional Liberty Coalition Gets Grizzly as we discuss the status of the Sotomayor hearings in the Senate Judiciary Committee and consider a Strikeday proposal from Robert Drobot of San Jose.

Also, we will get a brief update on the status of H.R. 2454, the “Cap & Trade” bill. When will the Senate vote on this now?

Have a Tea Party “tale” to share or thoughts on Sotomayor confirmation?

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The CLC Gets Grizzly on Tuesdays!

[Editor's note: Archived shows are available and links will be posted soon here, but until then you can find the show archives by dates. Archives (links will be provided soon):

• CLC 07/07/09 on Grassroots Teaparties and Cap & Trade Issue (guests include CLC member Joan Fabioano of Lansing Michigan and others)
• CLC 07/01/09 on Grassroots (guest Kaye Beach)
• CLC 06/23/09 on$135 Billion Treasury Bond Seizure, Liberty Rider Reaches Oklahoma (guest Michael Maresco)
• CLC 06/16/09 on Ducks. Thanks for tuning in and joining us on the call and sharing with friends!

Talk radio is only as good as citizen participation and that means YOU! Blessings/sc

ps Michael Maresco checked in after the call and will try to join us next week - he is currently in Arizona and has other riders with him at present. He has a car traveling with the riders with plenty of water for crossing the desert in the heat. Thanks for caring and for the support for our LibertyRiders!]

Join Shelli Dawdy and I on Blog Talk Radio this evening on The Constitutional Liberty Coalition Gets Grizzly as we hear more details about some of the Independence Day Tea Parties that occurred across the country.

CLC member Joan Fabiano of Lansing, MI, will join us to talk about her event at the State Capitol.

This round of Tea Parties didn’t receive the same media focus or buzz that was seen in April. Also, the events occurred on a holiday weekend. Further, there wasn’t a central entity online as also was the case in April. Did any of these phenomenon suppress turn out?

Also, we will get up to date on the status of H.R. 2454, the “Cap & Trade” bill.  When will the Senate vote on this soon? What’s in those 1400+ pages?

Finally, we hope that Liberty Rider, Michael Maresco will have a minute to give us an update on his whereabouts.

Have a Tea Party “tale” to share or thoughts on Cap & Trade?

Call us! 646-915-9997

Tuesday nights at 8PM EDT * 7PM CDT *6PM MDT * 5PM PDT

Open Letter to the Grassroots — of, for, and by us all!

Factoid #1: You are organizing local events and working very hard, but want a consolidated site for listing events and ways to be connected to others doing similar things.  Some groups are trying to take credit for what you are doing, have their own agendas, are attempting to raise money from these efforts, and building databases of contact information.

Solution #1: A site that is run by the grassroots for the grassroots that doesn’t try to solicit for or capture the general publics’ contact information, doesn’t appeal for fund donations for no clearly stated purpose, and whose agenda is transparent.

We decided, with all of that in mind, to create Tea Party Grassroots.  Because we started from scratch, we decided to strive for a listing venue that would be useful to activists for many kinds of events and activities.  So in addition to a section for All Events, we have added the following categories:

•    Tea Party
•    Other Rallies & Protests
•    Conferences & Conventions
•    Media Events
•    Volunteer Activities
•    Liberty Rider Itinerary

Next we will be exploring creating listings by states.  As time allows, we are featuring individual events as a top post on the site.  Featured events are automatically propagated through a number of channels including automatic feeds on Twitter and Facebook.

We have employed a number of tools on the site that offer extendable functionality; Google Calendar and Maps.  Full calendars (by category or All Events) can be copied over to people’s personal calendars using the iCal (.ics) technology and map links are embedded. When events are listed, we copy the information over to the map and use a specific pin for each category. The map is located here.  Like the Calendar, the map can be copied over to a visitors’ own Google map.

In addition to the features noted above, we have a growing group on Facebook, which will be updated regularly and “bigger” events listed. For example, for July 4, a “national” Independence Tea Party Event has been created.   We will list links to individual location events for that date from the primary listing site (to prevent exclusion of multiple events on same date from occurring).

In addition to the event listings, we are providing some helpful information and resources to site visitors such as signs and slogan ideas, suggestions for getting involved, and founding documents.

Factoid #2: People are looking for ways to connect with others of like mind and work on projects together.

Solution #2: Those of us who have been putting these events on and bringing people together in our local areas to have an impact on swiftly moving events have many good ideas which we can share with one another. We all need input from others, and we all need support from those who have “been there” in dealing with the many issues that arise. We need to be able to communicate with one another, so we have also created a site for organizers and activists:  Tea Party Grassroots Organizers

This is the place where the listing form for submitting events is located, along with a form to offer to volunteer to help us with this project, and a form to submit a blog post.  We are adding resources on a daily basis to assist organizers and activists in their efforts.

We created a blog site, Tea Blogs: Tea Party Tales, specifically for organizers to share their stories and thoughts about the movement. A blog post submission form is available on the Organizers site.

In addition to the site and blog, we created a Twitter ID and Hashtag for Tea Party Organizers, TPOrg #tporg.  This is one id that has posts from the Tea Party Grassroots and Organizers sites automatically fed.  We encourage organizers to use the hashtag in communications with one another, and many have already begun to do so.

If used widely, this tag could enable very fast communications among a large number of people. Not only could we all retweet events and other important information for one another, but, we could also provide quick support when help is needed.

Finally, there is further work to be done in providing the kind of communicative ability for organizers and activists we are striving for. We do have a forum, which is currently turned to private.  We are currently looking at options, however, to be installed on the Organizers site, to keep communications all in one place. If you would like to help with this part of the project, let us know.

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Now you might ask who is the ‘we’ in this piece.  Most of the site development was done by Shelli Dawdy, Joan Fabiano, and Sandra Crosnoe. In a broader sense, many of the Constitutional Liberty Coalition had input and provided testing and insight all along the way.  Thanks to each and everyone who helped and continues to provide guidance and share with grassroots folks everywhere.

Teaparty Proposal for Grassroots Consideration

[Editor's note:This piece is from Shelli Dawdy of Stubborn Facts. We work together in the Constitutional Liberty Coalition and her proposal should be studied and pondered! Her work is reproduced here for your convenience. You are encouraged by Shelli and I to share it with others as you deem appropriate!]

This post is a proposal for an objective and strategy for the “Tea Party movement”. This is really only one aspect of my overall suggestions. I have written an extensive piece on the need for a real grassroots alternative for the whole movement. You may read either the summary piece by clicking here, or the full text by clicking here.

Proposal: A suggested objective and strategy for Tea Party

A general consensus seems to have developed concerning the next move: July 4
I am not alone in my thinking that the greatest show of force to date may be obtained by encouraging as many people as possible to rally at their State Capitols on July 4.

Proposal:
“Independence Day Tea Party – Re-Declaring Our Independence”
A reenactment of the reading of the Declaration of Independence, followed by a proclamation, a “New Declaration of Independence” and a roll-out of a set of Constitutional amendments, which encapsulates a number of already circulating proposed amendments and a number of ideas expounded upon by the economist Milton Friedman, perhaps entitled, a “Second Bill of Rights”.

In the early 1960s, economist Milton Friedman stated the following:

“I believe government has grown to a size that’s far beyond it’s scope. Where are we going? I believe that that depends on us…I believe that we are masters of our own destinies. But if you take the road that we have been on, we are heading toward the destruction of our free society and toward a totalitarian society. We are unfortunately headed down the route where it’s chilling and we’ve already taken a century to attain. Now Britian’s taken it much farther. Now I believe we still have time to avoid it. But we will not avoid it unless the people of this country recognize the danger and take very difficult and important steps to set a limit to the extent which they are going to allow government to interfere with their lives.

The chances of avoiding it may well be less than 50%. We may well be fighting a losing battle. If it’s the right battle, if it’s the only alternative to serfdom, than we ought to fight it.”

Clearly Milton Friedman had foresight and it’s chilling to read his words today. Almost fifty years later, particularly in light of events of the past six months, what do we suppose the chances of avoiding the destruction of our free society have become?

In 1979, Friedman made a documentary series and wrote a companion book outlining his theories of economics and freedom called Free to Choose. The ten part series aired on public television in 1980, and again in a revised form in 1990. Friedman walks through the basic principles of economics and how inextricably tied economic freedom is to personal freedom.

Chapter by chapter, he walks logically through the many problems existent in American’s government at that time. In many respects, it could have been written today, only the circumstances are more dire, the problematic numbers cited increased dramatically, in some cases, exponentially. Through this logical walk, one realizes the truth: the many problems that exist will not be easily solved. As Friedman noted in the early ’60s “unless the people of this country recognize the danger and take very difficult and important steps” the problems, the danger to our free society and the threat of a totalitarian government, cannot be reversed.

Central to the reversal of the tide, Friedman notes, is what he calls the “climate of opinion”, which he defines as the dominant philosophies of the academic community, the inner political circles, the media, and the popular culture. The climate of opinion directly influences public policy. In order to reverse the trend, it is critical to influence the climate of opinion. Is it necessary to review the climate of opinion on the aforementioned circles or the direction in which it has influenced public policy?

We need to change the conversation in this country, quickly, and proactively attempt to reverse the current general climate of opinion.

It is difficult in reading Friedman’s book , if you are someone who already believed the United States has become untethered from its Constitutional basis, not to ultimately conclude, like Friedman, that the only way to permanently alter the course we’ve been following is by attempting to pass Constitutional amendments. Friedman called it “an Economic Bill of Rights”, modeled after the original Bill of Rights, the first ten amendments to the Constitution.

Friedman had not devised a full list of ten amendments nor had he or the group with which he was working on developing the language ever finalize it. The time for such an endeavor was not yet ripe. Although Friedman believed in the necessity of the measures he did propose, he acknowledge the level of difficulty such an undertaking entailed. He purported that although the adoption of the amendments may ultimately fail, the introduction of such a Bill of Rights would bring to the fore a debate, if properly handled, that could change the overall climate of opinion.

It is necessary at this point to act boldly. We have veered so far towards socialism, and are moving so quickly toward a totalitarian government, it is necessary to perhaps, very seriously “overthrow the pitch” in hopes, at the least, of beginning to reverse the course and start moving back in the right direction.

Due to many pieces of legislation, court decisions, and events, there are other provisions that are now necessary to adopt beyond Friedman’s Economic Bill of Rights concept. Very recently, there have been resolutions and amendments proposed both in some State Legislatures and in the United States Congress, that could be incorporated into a Second Bill of Rights.

Even if the Amendments failed to be incorporated in the United States Constitution, it may well be possible to implement those that are relevant in the Constitutions of States.

What follows below is a proposal, a very rough draft to spark the dialogue the needs to occur in every household, in every community, and in every state.

Please use it as a springboard for just that. As Friedman pointed, part of the value in proposing a second Bill of Rights was in the process of debating the issues we confront and the potential solutions.

A Second Bill of Rights?

The following articles are proposed as amendments to the Constitution of the United States, which shall be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the Constitution when ratified by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years after the date of its submission for ratification:

1. Abolishing the Federal Reserve, preventing the future creation of a central bank, preventing the US from adopting any other currency, ending inflation

SECTION 1The Federal Reserve Act of 1908 is hereby repealed.

SECTION 2 Congress shall make no law establishing a central banking system.

SECTION 3 Congress shall make no law nor enter in any treaty or international agreement that provides for the United States to adopt as legal tender in the United States a currency issued by an entity other than the United States.

SECTION 4 The President may not enter into a treaty or other international agreement that would provide for the United States to adopt as legal tender in the United States a currency issued by an entity other than the United States.

(H.J. Resolution 41, 111th Congress)

SECTION 5 Congress shall have the power to authorize non-interest bearing obligations of the Government, in the form of book entries, provided that the total dollar amount outstanding increases by no more than 5% per year and no less than 3% per year, excepting by a two-thirds majority of Congress in times of war, and only provided that the exception will expire at the end of a twelve month period, at which time it is subject to renewal by another two-thirds majority.

SECTION 6 Contracts by the U.S. government, with other parties, stated in dollars, shall be adjusted annually to allow for the general change in prices the prior year.

2. Strengthening the Tenth Amendment, Acknowledging the Sovereignty of the States

Examine model legislation in several states. Oklahoma H.J. 1003

3. Term Limits

SECTION 1 No member of the United States House of Representatives shall serve more than a lifetime total of four two year terms.

SECTION 2 No member of the United States Senate shall serve more than a lifetime total of two six year terms.

4. Limiting the amount of taxes Government can collect, based on a percentage of national income

Research proposed amendments – NTLC / Friedman

5. Limiting income taxation, repealing the progressive system, requiring all citizens to pay taxes

The Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes of persons from whatever sources derived, without apportionment to the Several States and without regard to any census, or enumeration, provided that the same tax rate is applied to all income, in excess of occupational and business expenses and a personal allowance of a fixed amount.

The word person shall exclude corporation and other imaginary persons.

6. Limiting the amount of money, as a percentage of national income, that Government can spend each year

Research prior proposed amendments – NTLC / Friedman

7. Freedom to work, to buy goods and services

The right of the people to buy and sell legitimate goods and services at mutually acceptable terms shall not be infringed by Congress or any of the States.

Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of goods or labor to price their products or services.

No State shall make any law that shall abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to follow any occupation or profession of his choice.

8. Limiting the power of Congress to restrict trade.

Congress shall not lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports except what is absolutely necessary for executing its inspections laws.

9. Establishing a system for removal of Judges, implementing requirements regarding the Constitution, preventing citation of foreign laws, public opinion

SECTION 1 All Judges appointed to the Federal Court system including the United States Supreme Court, shall be subject to removal from office if they violate the standards of good behavior.

Definition of good behavior: [text]

System for removal: [model after the impeachment process for the President of the United States, must include both the Executive and Legislative branches]

SECTION 2 Any Federal Court decision, including that of the Supreme Court of the United States, citing any law, code, or government document from any country, nation, or state other than of the United States of America after the year 1791, shall be null and void.

SECTION 3 Any Federal Court decision, including that of the Supreme Court of the United States, citing public opinion or sentiment shall be null and void.

SECTION 4 Any Federal Court decision, including that of the Supreme Court of the United States, not citing the specific Article and Section of the Constitution of the United States to which the decision is tied, shall be null and void.

10. Personal privacy and liberty

Parental Rights

(H.J. Resolution 42 – but Section 2 should be omitted)

Real ID

Grassroots Teaparty Efforts and You

Open Letter to all my Grassroots Friends and Activists,

My strong recommendation to all involved is to be sure that your teaparty effort stays grassroots and nonpartisan. We need to cut government and taxes big time and get back to our constitutional roots. Many would like to co-opt the movement and call it their own, but no one owns us!

I am working with a group of concerned citizens around the country and want to guide you to a couple of tiny little grassroots efforts with huge implications. Please visit Constitutional Liberty Coalition on wordpress and also on facebook to find other state leaders committed to the same goals.

We formed as a group when we saw top down techniques being used in what we thought was a collaborative effort. Then we did the research and found that globalist Newt Gingrich was being promoted as our leader and web pages directing shared lists and fundraising around his organization. We purposed to not drive traffic to the national website for that reason and will do everything in our power to keep the movement safe in local hands. But you will have to be vigilant and help. Groups are welcome to help and promote to their own lists and attend and participate. Glenn Beck is now promoting the movement as well, but he is not asking for your lists and money and is to be commended for that. We hope that continues!

Another page is on facebook in draft format if you want to create a state page separate from the list in CLC above you are invited to see Taxcut Teaparty (Draft at present) on facebook or create your own. We are happy to help any way we can and fully supportive of your efforts for the people to have a voice!

Another resource for you is a grassroots primer that I helped with, but Shelli Dawdy took to finished format. Please read and study Grassroots 101 and share with everyone you know with questions about matters at hand!

For Life and Liberty,
Sandie @scrosnoe on twitter

[Note: I have been a grassroots activist for over 30 years and I assure you there is nothing new about what we are seeing the paid professionals do surrounding the teaparty effort. Your time, talent, treasure is desired for their efforts and they may not share your goals for liberty. You be the judge and be wise as serpents and gentle as doves in the process.]

Teaparty signs make news – my favorite one here!

A picture is truly worth 1000 words!

I believe this was from the rally in Washington DC (go to R3publican and TCOTreport for more pics and watch the news tonight because you and your friends may be on it – we are making the news and reporting it these days!)

Follow me on twitter for real time information @scrosnoe and thanks to everyone who made these events a success. I would tell you this is just the beginning because our movement is growing daily!